{"id":40182691,"user":"thatguysaguy","time":1714246083,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

That is quite the claim, any source?

Edit: I guess I'm not sure on whether large training runs count as prod or not. They're certainly expensive and mission critical.","comments":[{"id":40182750,"user":"JSDevOps","time":1714246486,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

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I have worked on a team which trains foundation models","comments":[{"id":40182857,"user":"JSDevOps","time":1714247260,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

And no one’s used anything other than Python? The core of Tensorflow uses C++","comments":[{"id":40183328,"user":"dekhn","time":1714250584,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

Many parts of tensorflow required Python- at least when I worked there a few years ago, it was nearly impossible to compile XLA into a saved model and execute it from pure C++ code.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=40183328"},{"id":40182894,"user":"thatguysaguy","time":1714247537,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

The claim was that Python is only used for prototyping at Google, not that people are writing the AI frameworks themselves in pure Python.

JAX is obviously implemented in C++, but the scientists running the training runs which cost millions of dollars are writing lots of python.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=40182894"},{"id":40182947,"user":"mihai_maruseac","time":1714247830,"time_ago":"a year ago","type":"comment","content":"

Rather than repeat myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40182940","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=40182947"}],"comments_count":3,"level":2,"url":"item?id=40182857"}],"comments_count":4,"level":1,"url":"item?id=40182799"}],"comments_count":5,"level":0,"url":"item?id=40182750"}],"comments_count":6,"url":"item?id=40182691"}

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