Comment by gruez
8 months ago
>I think the call is for companies to be less psychopathic and stop onboarding people within 90 days of mass layoffs.
Was there any indication that the "mass layoffs" were planned 90 days in advance?
8 months ago
>I think the call is for companies to be less psychopathic and stop onboarding people within 90 days of mass layoffs.
Was there any indication that the "mass layoffs" were planned 90 days in advance?
That wasn't how I interpreted this phrasing. I read it as "it is worth being critical of an org that does mass layoffs and then goes on to hire new people to fill vacated roles shortly after the layoffs were finished".
That timing shows that it's not just implementing headcount and budget reductions, which are somewhat defensible if still tragic. It was instead a forced turnover, which in some cases can be a route to wage suppression.
>That timing shows that it's not just implementing headcount and budget reductions, which are somewhat defensible if still tragic. It was instead a forced turnover, which in some cases can be a route to wage suppression.
Apparently the person in question was fired within 3 months of being hired[1]. If this is true it seems like a stretch to characterize it as "forced turnover" or "wage suppression".
[1] https://x.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
It takes around that long to plan and for public companies they don't just suddenly come to that decision within a single quarter, but also that's missing the point.
If you're a public company and you go from healthy to mass layoffs within a single quarter then your investors (and employees) should be a lot more concerned.
>If you're a public company and you go from healthy to mass layoffs within a single quarter then your investors (and employees) should be a lot more concerned.
1. According to the CEO the layoffs in question were for "~40 sales people out of over 1,500 in our go to market org"[1]. Is that really a "mass layoff"?
2. Did you not remember that the layoffs coincided with reversal in macroeconomic conditions? Specifically, the reversal from "inflation is transitory" to "inflation is persistent and the central bank will hike interest interest rates".
[1] https://x.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
90 days isn't enough time to close enterprise deals. The whole point is that the firings demonstrate that she was never set up to succeed by the organization.
That's why the org took heat online for it.
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