Comment by kmeisthax
8 months ago
CloudFlare only dropped Kiwi Farms because Keffals made it inconvenient for them to do business with enterprise customers. Said customers were looking at Twitter and saying, "Wait, you host WHAT?!"
Before that CF was high and mighty on the "free speech" horse.
There's an old spat between CloudFlare and Malwarebytes where MB was threatening to block all of CloudFlare because they wouldn't remove literal malware. The argument being that running a reverse proxy "isn't hosting", and should be treated differently, even though to literally anyone else there's no difference between an origin server and a proxy.
CloudFlare is just sketchy as all get out, IMO.
Putting my biases on the table: I think CloudFlare shouldn't have hosted Kiwi Farms in it's current state, because I don't think hosting dox should be legal. A website that hosts dox is not engaging in speech, it is engaging in censorship. Hell, in the EU, it's already illegal to host dox, the US just needs to pass a privacy law comparable to that of the GDPR. Kiwi Farms is legal in the US purely for the same reason why the CIA/FBI/NSA can legally buy advertising data from Google and Facebook.
> CloudFlare shouldn't have hosted Kiwi Farms in it's current state, because I don't think hosting dox should be legal
But they keep doing it. Just not KiwiFarms but other websites. I've reported it to them, they claim they are only a proxy (that's not true, they are also the registrar and DNS). Nothing was done.
Sounds about right from the "censorship is when packet loss" crowd.