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Comment by Retr0id

2 years ago

the first step of safe superintelligence is to abolish capitalism

That’s the first step towards returning to candlelight. So it isn’t a step toward safe super intelligence, but it is a step away from any super intelligence. So I guess some people would consider that a win.

  • Not sure if you want to share the capitalist system with an entity that outcompetes you by definition. Chimps don't seem to do too well under capitalism.

    • You might be right, but that wasn't my point. Capitalism might yield a friendly AGI or an unfriendly AGI or some mix of both. Collectivism will yield no AGI.

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One can already see the beginning of AI enslaving humanity through the establishment. Companies work on AI get more investment and those who don't gets kicked out of the game. Those who employ AI get more investment and those who pay humans lose confidence through the market. People lose jobs, get harshly low birth rates while AI thrives. Tragic.

  • So far it is only people telling AI what to do. When we reach the day where it is common place for AI to tell people what to do then we are possibly in trouble.

Why does everything have to do with capitalism nowadays?

Racism, unsafe roads, hunger, bad weather, good weather, stubbing toes on furniture, etc.

Don't believe me?

See https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Are there any non-capitalist utopias out there without any problems like this?

  • To be honest these search results being months apart shows quite the opposite of what you're saying...

    Even though I agree with your general point.

  • It is a trendy but dumbass tautology used by intellectually lazy people who think they are smart. Society is based upon capitalism therefore everything bad is the fault of capitalism.

  • This is literally a discussion on allocation of capital, it's not a reach to say that capitalism might be involved.

    • Right, so you draw a line from that to abolishing capitalism.

      Is that the only solution here? We need to destroy billions of lives so that we can potentially prevent "unsafe" super intelligence?

      Let me guess, your cure for cancer involves abolishing humanity?

      Should we abolish governments when some random government goes bad?

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