Comment by dogleash
2 years ago
> # Reddit believes in an open internet, but not the misuse of public content.
Calling it "public" content in the very act of exercising their ownership over it. The balls on whoever wrote that.
2 years ago
> # Reddit believes in an open internet, but not the misuse of public content.
Calling it "public" content in the very act of exercising their ownership over it. The balls on whoever wrote that.
Their license/Eula clearly state that Reddit has perpetual whatever to content posted on Reddit, but relying solely on DMCA for "stolen" content _yet again_ feels like a terrible way to deal with non-original content. Part of me hopes that Reddit gets hit with some new precidence-setting lawsuits regarding non-original content that requires useful attribution, but I double t that will ever happen.
An EULA does not change the morality of the situation anyway. They are a leech profiting off users generating content who are now upset about not getting a cut from third-parties also profiting from said user generated content.
Also, EULAs cant violate laws, the same qay you cant sign away your first born child.
> a leech profiting off users
can also say every humans are leech benefiting off free software (creators) and complaining about their worthless chitchat, barely usable because of its basic semantics, being "stolen".
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it's even worse. it's not theirs (it's the users'), they are merely hosting it and using it (ToS gives them a fancy irrevocable license I guess).
so they can do whatever they want with it and the actual owners/authors have no chance to really influence Reddit at all to make it crawlable. (the GDPR-like data takeout is nice, but ... completely useless in these cases where the value is in the composition and aggregation with other users' content.)
On top of that, a sizable chunk of Reddit content is ripped from elsewhere, whether videos, images, etc.
actually owners/authors like me would not want our stuff crawlable because that gives up our ownership.
When I am answering some random dude on reddit with a problem I want that dude to read my solution. I don't want this to be crawled and forever stored (probably deanonymized) or enshrined in a dozen commercial LLMs. There is substack for that stuff.
I'll be honest... I don't care about this thing. I view public posts as something that belongs to the public domain and if that is searchable, all the better, other people can reach my post. And if that is what LLM's are trained on, also, great, I hope it will be useful to some people. What I _do_ care about is an even playing fields and access to _all_ llms to be trained in that data.
In the end, I view potential AGI's as a common consciousness brainchild.
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have you heard about DMs?
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> the GDPR like data takeout is nice
Is there a way to export my history? How?
https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request
(and there's some help article for it that I didn't read, but google found this first https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/36004304835... that's how I got to the link)
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I tried it many months back when they glitch-killed my decade-plus account. (Yes, I'm still bitter over the kafkaesque injustice.)
Anyway, you basically submit a request and then later they will email you a link to a zip file that contains a free dozen CSV files with unescaped newlines. One for all the comments you made, one for up/down-votes, one for blocked users, etc.
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The Fake News police should shut down this sort of messaging