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Comment by bowsamic

2 years ago

> just like we forbid work under alcohol

Do we? In many companies there is free infinite beer

This surprises me. Are you speaking from a US point of view?

In many west european countries it is forbidden to consume alcohol in work hours, except at company-arranged events etc. and/or to be intoxicated.

For a comparative overview of the practical differences: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9779578/

  • I live in Germany and a lot of companies still have free beer on tap and the managers will pressure you to drink during work hours

    From the article you posted:

    > Therefore, in most companies and public administration, it is solely at the discretion of employers as to what extent they tolerate alcohol consumption by their employees. The employer has the right to impose sanctions on the employee who refuses to take an alcohol test, which may result in loss of employment or suspension [53]. In Germany, regional and cultural particularities can be decisive; for example, in Lower and Upper Bavaria and in Franconia it is still common for many companies’ employees to have a glass of beer during the lunch break.

    • Haha interesting! Which sector are you in?

      I work for a German-owned industry corporation (in a nearby EU country) and would get fired for having a friday beer with colleagues if not at company-arranged “friday bar” or some other event :)

      No national law requires this strictness, but +95% of companies in my country have simular rules in place.

      My German colleagues are mostly serious when saying “Kein Bier vor vier” (i.e. no beers before 16:00/work ends).

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In British parliament the most important people in the country get alcohol subsidised by the taxpayer. And they regularly find drugs in the bathroom.

You’d think that if anyone, these people would have to be sober.

  • If you assume what MPs do is all that important. They mostly just do what their told by their party leadership anyway, and the rest of the time they are making decisions about things they know nothing about.

    Someone did a survey of how much MPs knew about economics and the results were dire, and they is something good many have been taught (all those PPE degrees!) and that is really important to them.