Comment by Fire-Dragon-DoL
2 years ago
I was reviewing the Android world, apparently if you want updates you either pick google, samsung or lineageos or grapheneos (still google).
Now, if you pick the first 2,you get tracking. if you pick the other two, you are banned from various apps and functionality even if the phone is not rooted because "there is no megacorp backing you up".
This is really, really bad. Equivalent to the linux secureboot issue that could have been.
It's certainly not the case with GrapheneOS. I have hardly faced any issues with the apps that I use. And if it's complaining about not having play services, you can install sandboxed play services on a new profile
As far as I'm aware, it is not possible to use google pay on grapheneos because of device attestation
Most apps work fine, but certain cases like NFC payments generally don't because those apps require that you are using an OS that is signed by someone on their allow-list.
On GrapheneOS, I have one banking app that works, and one that doesn't because of the linked issue.
Hilariously the message in the app says I can't be signed in because it's detected the phone is "jailbroken/rooted" and I "can still use our mobile site". The phone is not jailbroken or rooted, and using the mobile site on the same "untrustworthy" device is just as risky...
Even with the maximum of proprietary services I just about got reliable location sensing while outside. Still much worse than on iOS/stock Android. Banking did work however, kudos for that.
Unless you want tap to pay with google wallet.
Always ask, where this comes up:
What apps are you using that won't work on GrapheneOS?
I can't find any that anyone actually needs.
Uber Driver. Uber Driver does not work on GrapheneOS. If you know of a way to get it working, let me know.
Netflix, my banking app, google pay
Just tried Netflix, it works perfectly.
Browser, browser, Google OS only (enforced via whitelist).
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Can you cast it from the browser? And doesn't support offline, which is important when traveling (the only moment I would use netflix on the phone)
And the banking app can scan checks, but the web version cannot. Unfortunately in north America we still live in the 90s and checks are still widely used.
And yeah, cut out of google pay. Which there is no reason to, given grapheneos is outright safer
Google wallet for tap to pay.
Google OS only (enforced via whitelist).
Give them a buzz, lol.
> I was reviewing the Android world, apparently if you want updates you either pick google, samsung or lineageos or grapheneos (still google).
What do you mean? Plenty of ROMs get regular updates on a variety of hardware.
Yes, sorry I should have specified, they are all affected by the same problem though: no hardware attestation