← Back to context Comment by HPsquared 2 years ago I propose "Net Curtain" as the name for EU's version of the Great Firewall. 11 comments HPsquared Reply zo1 2 years ago A reference to "The Iron Curtain"? HPsquared 2 years ago Indeed. Like the Iron Curtain, but more porous and networky. troupo 2 years ago You truly believe the US wouldn't do the same?BTW what's your take on US requiring US-based companies to provide data on foreign citizens if subpoenaed? immibis 2 years ago The US does it through a private business (Cloudflare), so it's constitutional. troupo 1 year ago I'm desperately trying to figure out this response, and I can't.Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41280221 cscurmudgeon 2 years ago The debate is what EU would do if foreign companies don't obey EU's laws.The debate is not whether the US will do something draconian the EU is doing today. troupo 2 years ago What draconian laws does EU apply to foreign companies? Try to come up with examples of companies that don't have offices and legal and commercial presence in the EU.BTW remind me what's your take on the US banning Huawei in the US? BlueTemplar 2 years ago Since when do they bother with subpoenas ? Or are you referring to the secret courts rubberstamping wiretapping after the fact ? troupo 2 years ago I used subpoena as an umbrella term, there are multiple ways to get that data.E.g. here's Facebook's report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/government-data-reques...In July-January 2023 they received FISA requests targeting over 150 thousand foreign nationals Buttons840 2 years ago Copper Curtain marcosdumay 2 years ago Either Silicon or Optical Fiber Curtain.
zo1 2 years ago A reference to "The Iron Curtain"? HPsquared 2 years ago Indeed. Like the Iron Curtain, but more porous and networky.
troupo 2 years ago You truly believe the US wouldn't do the same?BTW what's your take on US requiring US-based companies to provide data on foreign citizens if subpoenaed? immibis 2 years ago The US does it through a private business (Cloudflare), so it's constitutional. troupo 1 year ago I'm desperately trying to figure out this response, and I can't.Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41280221 cscurmudgeon 2 years ago The debate is what EU would do if foreign companies don't obey EU's laws.The debate is not whether the US will do something draconian the EU is doing today. troupo 2 years ago What draconian laws does EU apply to foreign companies? Try to come up with examples of companies that don't have offices and legal and commercial presence in the EU.BTW remind me what's your take on the US banning Huawei in the US? BlueTemplar 2 years ago Since when do they bother with subpoenas ? Or are you referring to the secret courts rubberstamping wiretapping after the fact ? troupo 2 years ago I used subpoena as an umbrella term, there are multiple ways to get that data.E.g. here's Facebook's report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/government-data-reques...In July-January 2023 they received FISA requests targeting over 150 thousand foreign nationals
immibis 2 years ago The US does it through a private business (Cloudflare), so it's constitutional. troupo 1 year ago I'm desperately trying to figure out this response, and I can't.Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41280221
troupo 1 year ago I'm desperately trying to figure out this response, and I can't.Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41280221
cscurmudgeon 2 years ago The debate is what EU would do if foreign companies don't obey EU's laws.The debate is not whether the US will do something draconian the EU is doing today. troupo 2 years ago What draconian laws does EU apply to foreign companies? Try to come up with examples of companies that don't have offices and legal and commercial presence in the EU.BTW remind me what's your take on the US banning Huawei in the US?
troupo 2 years ago What draconian laws does EU apply to foreign companies? Try to come up with examples of companies that don't have offices and legal and commercial presence in the EU.BTW remind me what's your take on the US banning Huawei in the US?
BlueTemplar 2 years ago Since when do they bother with subpoenas ? Or are you referring to the secret courts rubberstamping wiretapping after the fact ? troupo 2 years ago I used subpoena as an umbrella term, there are multiple ways to get that data.E.g. here's Facebook's report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/government-data-reques...In July-January 2023 they received FISA requests targeting over 150 thousand foreign nationals
troupo 2 years ago I used subpoena as an umbrella term, there are multiple ways to get that data.E.g. here's Facebook's report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/government-data-reques...In July-January 2023 they received FISA requests targeting over 150 thousand foreign nationals
Buttons840 2 years ago Copper Curtain marcosdumay 2 years ago Either Silicon or Optical Fiber Curtain.
A reference to "The Iron Curtain"?
Indeed. Like the Iron Curtain, but more porous and networky.
You truly believe the US wouldn't do the same?
BTW what's your take on US requiring US-based companies to provide data on foreign citizens if subpoenaed?
The US does it through a private business (Cloudflare), so it's constitutional.
I'm desperately trying to figure out this response, and I can't.
Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41280221
The debate is what EU would do if foreign companies don't obey EU's laws.
The debate is not whether the US will do something draconian the EU is doing today.
What draconian laws does EU apply to foreign companies? Try to come up with examples of companies that don't have offices and legal and commercial presence in the EU.
BTW remind me what's your take on the US banning Huawei in the US?
Since when do they bother with subpoenas ? Or are you referring to the secret courts rubberstamping wiretapping after the fact ?
I used subpoena as an umbrella term, there are multiple ways to get that data.
E.g. here's Facebook's report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/government-data-reques...
In July-January 2023 they received FISA requests targeting over 150 thousand foreign nationals
Copper Curtain
Either Silicon or Optical Fiber Curtain.