Comment by copx
1 year ago
So you are telling me, Musk is a fan of the Islamist regime in Turkey and its persecution of non-Islamists..
Somehow, I don't believe that.
Especially given that X also censors for India's anti-Islamic government..
Seems pretty obvious that ideological sympathies are not the deciding factor here, but the question wether an unwillingness to comply would lead to X being banned in the country in question.
> So you are telling me, Musk is a fan of the Islamist regime in Turkey and its persecution of non-Islamists..
The former, absolutely. Your refusal to believe this seems to come from the idea that Musk has clear principles that he adheres to. He does not. His only concerns are money and power.
> His only concerns are money and power.
So why not stay in Brazil and get more money?
The obvious explanation being that the costs to comply are too great, the fines would be even worse. Therefore it's not worth it.
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It's not about islamism, it's about power. Musk has met Erdogan in person multiple times, and took his son to meet him when he came to the States. How many other heads of state did Musk take his son to meet?
Musk's whole schtick is quid pro quo and thin-skinism. He complains about Chinese EVs, then dashes on a jet to fly to China to meet Xi and scores a deal for Tesla -- no more whining about China. He publicly entertains Jewish conspiracy theories, claims he's pro peace in general, then gets on a jet to meet Netanyahu and the next thing you know he's clapping Netanyahu's speech in Congress.
His whole transition to his current persona can be traced to when is son announced their own transition and disowned him. His bumbling political outbursts are all self-serving garbage all the way down.
All speculation.
I guess a day without bashing Musk is a day not lived hmm?
Which part is speculation? I wasn't bashing his tech accomplishments fyi.
Turkey
2017: Elon Musk Meets Erdogan in Turkey, Turksat and SpaceX cooperation discussed.
https://apnews.com/article/cba761ce3c1c4e5a9e5485f03a632cda
Sep. 2023: Elon Musk takes son to meet Erdogan, who wants Tesla plant built in Turkey
https://fortune.com/2023/09/18/musk-son-meet-turkish-preside...
China
Jan. 2024: Elon Musk says Chinese EV firms will demolish rivals without trade barriers
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...
April 2024: Elon Musk flies to China, agrees to Tesla/Baidu cooperation
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-01/tesla-sea...
https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/01/tesla_map_backtrack_b...
May 2024: In about-face, Elon Musk opposes Chinese tariffs
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/elon-m...
Israel
Nov 2023: Elon Musk visits Israel after antisemitism row, gets Starlink deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67544945
There does not seem to be official Tesla or SpaceX presence in Brazil, coincidentally. The only Tesla presence in South America seems to be in "lithium-rich" Chile.
Musk has built amazing companies and can legitimately take credit for pushing the automotive industry towards EVs. But judging by his actions, in my book he's also a complete asshole. These two facts can co-exist.
I think he simply doesn’t care as that area of the world is far from his top 10 list of concerns, but he does always seem to be interested in Europe and the Americas
Musk recently personally donated cybertruck to effin' Kadyrov which was very thankful for it and promptly installed machine gun on it. A confirmed mass murderer and generally firmly in pool of the lowest human scum this planet has ever hosted. Lets be realistic for a while and not assign some stable high morals to mr musk.
Apart from his morality being flexible, his admiration for various murderous oppressors is famous at this point and his very obvious continuous mental issues only allow him to act in several modes. At the end, brilliant broken little boy with severe daddy issues and uber massive ego, stuff which he can never hope to fully tackle and it doesn't seem he is even trying to.
So, trying to map his responses to simple if x then y won't work like with normal balanced folks, he is too unstable and emotional for that.
> “Are you seriously so retarded that you think I donated a Cybertruck to a Russian general?” Musk wrote on X
Would such donation even be legal currently in the US? And AFAIK neither Tesla nor Musk ever donated a car before, for any reason or to anyone else in those 20+ years.
On the other hand, he is the largest private donator to Ukraine, via SpaceX and Starlink.
If you believe that you'll believe anything. Like Beyonce coming to the DNC
Musk is not personally signing off on every take-down request. It's his "pet projects" that he amplifies to his acolytes on Twitter you need to look at.
> Seems pretty obvious that ideological sympathies are not the deciding factor here
It's not about left and right. It's about who's Putin-aligned and who isn't.