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Comment by fsflover

1 year ago

> Telegram can be forced to give up data

That's all you need to know. Matrix and Signal can't be forced in any way.

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ThePowerOfFuet  1 year ago

The admins of Matrix instances sure can be forced to give up data. The metadata is not encrypted, and many rooms are not either.

  • foresto  1 year ago

    Metadata is indeed an open issue on Matrix. I believe addressing it is on their to-do list.

    Many rooms are not encrypted because they are public rooms, where there would be no point in it. Encryption has been the default for quite a while now.

    • _flux  1 year ago

      > I believe addressing it is on their to-do list.

      I doubt that it's very high on that list, as the problem seems a very hard. Very hard as in that do we even know it's possible? "Metadata" includes a lot of stuff, but basically the originator, the destination and the timing of the messages and participants of a room are all quite difficult to hide in a federated system.

      I do believe there is a plan for getting rid of the association of one user in multiple rooms, but that's but a small bit of metadata. I think it is part of the puzzle for supporting changing homeservers.

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