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Comment by maqp

1 year ago

>It's not e2e encrypted, so what? It's something the majority of users does not need, and that doesn't increase security that much given their downsides.

Privacy is a human right. Everyone needs it. And Telegram advertises itself as an encrypted messenger. For every non-expert, that means end-to-end encryption. Only me and recipient can read the message. Users expect Telegram to be more secure than WhatsApp. Telegram claims its more secure than WhatsApp, and Telegram has attacked WhatsApp over its security. WhatsApp is always end-to-end encrypted, Telegram is not. So don't go putting words into peoples mouths.

>Given that they store everything on their servers, it means years of chat history that probably weights Gb for each user

It could be stored there with client-side encryption, Telegram doesn't need to have access to that data. Also who says chats that are ephemeral in nature need to be forever accessible. I save what I need from Signal or Telegram.

>This is the reason Telegram can offer you to have all your messages, including medias that can be up to 1Gb each, stored on a cloud for free.

It's not free. It comes with the price of your human right to privacy. You should get a job at Facebook with this marketing pitch.

>As I user I prefer Telegram just because it's the only app that works perfectly synchronized among multiple devices

It doesn't sync secret chats at all with multiple devices, not even desktop. Signal does.

>good quality native clients

Your script is seven years old https://signal.org/blog/standalone-signal-desktop/

>You can put a backdoor on endpoints, that is compromise the user phone (something they do)

Nirvana fallacy. Why is Telegram offering secret chats if all endpoints are compromised? If they're not always compromised, then it should offer end-to-end encryption for everything, always. Like Signal, Whatsapp, Wire, Threema, iMessage, Cwtch, Briar, Element, Session...

>you can make a MITM attack on the server

Which is why every messaging app worth its salt offers safety numbers https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007060632-Wh...

Even telegram has them, although their initial implementation of babby's first QR-code was a joke. How do you compare over the phone shades of a color matrix?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUnBRB...

>you can access the data that is backed up on other platform

Oh, that would be horrible. Good thing Telegram doesn't have its data backed up in cloud, no wait, sorry, it does. ~Everything you ever do with the app is permanently stored in an ecosystem built by the Mark Zuckerberg of Russia, and his PhD in geometry bro Nikolai.

Shill harder.