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Comment by greenie_beans

2 years ago

This is a common misinterpretation of the labor theory of value. I understand it like this:

I am a capitalist and my money goes to pay labor to create a thing that I sell in a market. The workers create thing in the production process. I have captured a portion of the labor's true value based on the market, bringing me profit - what Marx called "surplus value."

I turn around and reinvest that profit into another business that brings me more profit. Rinse and repeat, forever.

But that profit is nothing but a portion of the labor's true value as reflected in the market price, and therefore the labor created the value. The market did not create the value. The market decided on a price to pay for the value created by the labor.

Much like "machines all the way down", value is labor all the way down.

That seems awfully.. tautological.

  • It's not tautological because it assumes that __management contributes nothing.__ Management's decisions about what to build in, how to build it, etc... are worth __nothing__ to Marxists.

    Related: when Marxism was actually implemented, they had big problems with not building the right things, and building the things they did build poorly. For example a factory was assigned the task of building N pounds of nails a day, so they just built one giant nail that weighed N pounds (and was totally useless) rather than buliding what was needed. Because it turns out, management is actually needed and useful.

    [And so are price signals, but let's take baby steps here!]