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Comment by WalterBright

2 years ago

> There is no value without labor.

True, but there is also no value without investment and risk. Marx's failure was ignoring the other two ingredients.

Marxism is building a road with hundreds of laborers with shovels. Capitalism is one guy with a bulldozer.

P.S. Cuba has no riches to steal.

Cuba’s riches are Florida’s electoral votes, often hinging upon the sentiment of the exiles in Miami-Dade County. Plus, their whole cigar thing.

Marx wrote a gigantic book called Capital and it provides a thorough analysis of investment and risk. He wrote a great deal of words describing how investment relates to surplus value (hint: investment is simply a capitalist's way of generating surplus value - profit, which is then used to generate more surplus value, which is... you understand the systemic contradiction here, I hope). You should probably read it if you want to discuss it!

  • I enjoyed reading Toliken's fantasy LODR very much, but my attempts at reading Marx's fantasies felt like hammering a nail into my skull.

    The attempts at implementing Marxism all ended in misery and famine. What more would anyone need to know about it?

    BTW, a capitalist investing money also entails risk. How it works is the more risk, the more potential reward. Does Marx account for risk? I ask that because the Marxists I hear never mention the essential role risk plays, they usually just assume there is no risk.