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Comment by idra

1 year ago

But it does. At the very least, you need to keep paying off the people in power and do everything within the framework of their rules, otherwise you’re in trouble

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Aeolun  1 year ago

I’m fairly certain you can go live somewhere off-grid and do everything however you want.

It’s only a tradeoff if you also want all the convenience of modern society.

  • red-iron-pine  1 year ago

    there is no "off grid", and even then those homesteaders aren't building houses themselves with tools they crafted themselves -- they're 100% dependent on tools and skills they learned in society.

    even remote and rural they're often still trucking into town weekly for gas and groceries.

    source: in laws in rural AB tried homesteading off the grid. all it meant was that their kid was homeschooled and can't do multiplication and they learned how difficult farming is.

  • xenocratus  1 year ago

    I'm fairly certain statistically you can't, because you need a place to go do that, the skills to pull it off, and have a family that's not only willing but actively supporting it, otherwise when the reality kicks in everything _will_ fall apart. Either that or some of you die. But hey, technically you'd be correct in that case.

    Or maybe I just have a gloomy view of what "living off the grid" looks like :] I'll just leave this [1] here, regarding that.

    [1] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/this-russian-family-l...

  • lioeters  1 year ago

    > live somewhere off-grid

    That's the thing, the grid covers everyone everywhere now. There is no escape from the planet of the apes.

    • sfn42  1 year ago

      Not really. It's just that people don't realize how much they rely on modern society. You could go all Primitive Technology and go live in a mud hut somewhere or whatever, nobody's forcing you to buy toothpaste and electricity and all that stuff.

      The problem is that sucks, so people don't actually want to live off grid. They just want to not work but also get the benefits of modern society.

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