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Comment by lifestyleguru

15 days ago

The situation escalated beyond probing, this is tit for tat response for Ukraine getting and launching US tactical missiles. Russia seems to be now aggressively monitoring and raiding the submarine pipes and cables. Blowing up of Nord Stream made Russia go ballistic.

> The situation escalated beyond probing

Not sure we understand "probing" differently. Russian currently is at the edges, testing the responses from things like cutting cables and otherwise interfering with the infrastructure. This is what "probing" means for me. "Beyond probing" would be actually launching attacks one way or another, which we haven't seen yet (except of course, for the Ukraine invasion).

  • > actually launching attacks one way or another, which we haven't seen yet

    On the contrary. The attacks have been ongoing for years now. You're looking for the tanks and missiles when the attack is actually happening right under your feet. Rot and corruption are more powerful than any bullets or missiles.

    • > Rot and corruption are more powerful than any bullets or missiles.

      The developed world knows this even better. Offering yachts, real estate, supercars, prostitutes, and other luxuries to oligarchs. Thanks to this their military is rather in shambles right now.

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  • A next step for them might be to disable/poison something like an entire urban water distribution system. But come to think of it, the US et al. might be able to do the same back to Russia. Because, you see, there is a whole 'nother ladder of escalation to explore.

    A submarine cable is an attractive target for Russia because Russia doesn't have cables of their own exposed: Russia is a continental power, not a maritime alliance. A cable attack is an asymmetric attack, difficult to respond to appropriately.

  • >"Beyond probing" would be actually launching attacks one way or another, which we haven't seen yet

    he's saying "this was not a probe, this was an actually launched attack"

> Blowing up of Nord Stream made Russia go ballistic

Russia started invading Ukraine six months before Nord Stream blow up. Previously Russia invaded Crimea in 2014.

The next invaded country, will be also an escalation?

All of this is about a few psychopaths filling their pockets with the money that generates the corpses of their criminal business, some encouraging the production of war, others encouraging the waging of war.

Why are these psychopaths and their "business" not prosecuted?

  • Because their prosecution means going to war. I don't know about you but as someone living less than 30 minutes from Ukraine I don't want my country to go to war.

    • And what makes you think it won't, anyways?

      Quoth Churchill: "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile-hoping it will eat him last."

      The crocodile is still intent on eating you, even if you're nice to it. I really wish Europe would start understanding that.

  • Who are you referring to? Putin and Russian oligarchs? If so, how would you imagine the mechanics of prosecuting them to work?

    • German political and industrial elite with their former chancellor are within the reach of Western jurisdiction. They were smirking at Trump when he was exactly pointing out their dependency on Russian gas so.... who knows...

No, decades of rampant kleptocracy and alcoholism made Russia go ballistic