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Comment by preisschild

5 days ago

> the first suspicion is a conspiracy throry about Russian involvement

Its not war propaganda when there is actually a lot of proven "hybrid warfare" being conducted by Russia. This fits perfectly in their MO

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itsoktocry  5 days ago

>conducted by Russia

Conducted by everyone, including the US and the west (in fact, I'm positive that we are the best at it).

  • benterix  5 days ago

    The closest what I can call it is whataboutism. Russia is actively trying to provoke the West in various ways. The most that West is doing is helping Ukraine to defend itself. We are not gathering poor immigrants into planes and transporting them to borders with Finland, Poland etc. instructing them to push their way to the other side. We are not sending inflammable materials via commercial airplanes. And we are not killing Russian spies in Moscow like they did with Lytvynenko.

    As for Putin being upset with the West helping Ukraine: they can stop it at any moment. It's enough they stop attacking Ukraine and go home, as simple as that.

    • willy_k  5 days ago

      To be fair if we were the best at it, we would probably have less obvious / more easily deniable methods of getting our way.

      > As for Putin being upset with the West helping Ukraine: they can stop it at any moment. It's enough they stop attacking Ukraine and go home, as simple as that.

      The way I see it, staying in the war to force a treatise is Putin’s only option to preserve his regime, as well as his intention from the start, not anticipating the US prolonging the conflict.

  • preisschild  5 days ago

    > Conducted by everyone, including the US and the west

    No we don't unless you think helping a victim defend against an aggressor is on the same level

    • guappa  10 hours ago

      Biden said he'd explode the gas pipeline… then the gas pipeline blows up… And we can't even suspect USA was involved?