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Comment by heraldgeezer

5 days ago

>Of course Russia is a corrupt dictatorship with a deliberate policy of sowing lies and chaos, and China is on the same road. But look at your (our) own governments, they are far from the angels you seem to believe them to be.

"Both sides equally bad" is a Russian talking point/propaganda. You fell for it, congrats.

Has the USA and EU/WEST done bad things. Yes. Is there corruption? Yes.

But at least my country has all indoor plumbing... like at some point one thing is better over the other. For quality of life I would rather be in the EU rather than the USA sure.

You cannot put western governments to a perfect standard and russia/china as inperfect. China is trying the same sneaky shit being classed as Third World country for climate and economy to get grants.

> "Both sides equally bad" is a Russian talking point/propaganda. You fell for it, congrats.

No I say USA is much worse (supporting genocide in Palestine, currently, but the list is long).

What I'd like is for NATO to be disbanded and EU to do its own thing.

I did not say they are equally bad.

I used a little critical thinking to determine that western governments also lie and manipulate, especially in cases like this, cold war situation. If that's a Russian talking-point, well, maybe they're right to point a finger back at us. Something about throwing stones in a glasshouse.

'hybrid warfare', 'Russian spy ships", 'Russian saboteurs', etc are all talking points and propaganda of western governments (let alone the Nordstream sabotage) but we're expected to blindly ignore all that that because they're 'on our side'?