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Comment by busterarm

1 year ago

That's basically propaganda and half-admits it on the site. There are almost no situations where you will not be buying your firearm from an FFL and you will have to fill out a background check form and have a waiting period.

The only private sales that happen are among criminals and within families. Regular people aren't going to risk the kind of charges that stem from misuse after a private sale. Certainly nobody with a legitimate business and livelihood to protect.

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toomuchtodo  1 year ago

Florida resident, have bought one without filling out any paperwork. Concealed carry license was paperwork though. I guess we're haggling over the background check? Sure, I concede I had to give them a page of info with a copy of my FL driver's license.

https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FPP/FAQs2.aspx ("Florida does not require a permit to purchase a firearm nor is there a permit that exempts any person from the background check requirement.")

  • behringer  1 year ago

    Filling out the background check is still an application to own a gun, eg a "permit application". Just because the government wants to pretend that it isn't a permit (for second amendment reasons) doesn't mean it's not a permit.

    • bdangubic  1 year ago

      permit would imply that it would be plausible for one person out of 8+ billion to be denied which you know… you can call it permit but I would call it piece of paper

HeatrayEnjoyer  1 year ago

> That's basically propaganda and half-admits it on the site

It is a simple page and I did not spot any inaccurate facts.

> There are almost no situations where you will not be buying your firearm from an FFL and you will have to fill out a permit.

I own 14 firearms and only 3 went through an FFL. Used firearms retain their value more than almost any other consumer good.

shadowgovt  1 year ago

> The only private sales that happen are among criminals and within families

This varies from state-to-state. Some states allow private sale of individual firearms with no background check.

(... I wish I didn't have a reason to know this fact).

mikeyouse  1 year ago

Lol what? Neighbors and loose friends buy guns from each other all the time. In Michigan at least, you only even need a permit if it's a handgun -- rifles and shotguns don't require an iota of state involvement and as long as you're reasonably sure the buyer isn't a prohibited person, there's no real liability either.

  • busterarm  1 year ago

    Only if you're idiots.

    Edit: Especially the kind that would post about it on the internet and snitch on themselves and attract undue attention from the ATF.

    But yeah, some very small percentage of people are stupid and/or criminal. 99.99% of gun purchases in the US happen through an FFL with a background check and everything.

    • Eumenes  1 year ago

      > 99.99% of gun purchases in the US happen through an FFL with a background check and everything

      Alot of states have classified pages where you can buy/sell firearms. Many states don't require background checks for private sales. People aren't paying a gun shop a FFL transfer/background check fee to hand over the gun to the buyer. Source: have seen many of these transactions at rod and gun clubs.