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Comment by almostgotcaught

1 year ago

> > there is no company running absolutely anything on top of legion > Does Nvidia count?

I don't understand? To prove that NVIDIA ships legion you sent me a link to a LANL post? How does that make sense? Show me a product page on NVIDIA's domain to prove to me that NVIDIA uses this in a product.

> The ACM Turing Award (computer science equivalent of Nobel Prize) committee believes otherwise

You seem to not get what I'm saying: my firm is position is academia doesn't understand absolutely anything in this area. Zero. Zilch. Nada. And absolutely no one in the industry cares either. So given that position, why is this relevant?

The only thing academia is good for is a talent pool of hard-working, smart people. We take those people and then completely retrain them to do actually useful work instead of research nonsense. The vast majority of PhDs coming from academia to industry (yes even from Stanford) literally are horrible software/hardware engineers. Many of them stay that way. The good ones (at least in so far as they care about having a successful career) learn quickly. That's how you get CUDA, which is a product worth a trillion dollars.

Look I've already told you: you workshop at an alter and you've also clearly never worked at a Stanford or an NVIDIA or a LANL. You'll never be convinced because... well I have no idea why people need mythologies to worship.

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transpute  1 year ago

> Show me a product page on NVIDIA's domain

Legion is research (where _future_ products originate), not yet a product, https://images.nvidia.com/events/sc15/pdfs/SC5117-future-hpc...

  LEGION: A VISION FOR FUTURE HPC PROGRAMMING SYSTEMS
  Michael Bauer, NVIDIA Research
  Patrick McCormick, Los Alamos National Laboratory

> academia doesn't understand absolutely anything in this area. Zero. Zilch. Nada. And absolutely no one in the industry does either.

Would you care to share the names of some software/hardware engineers worthy of emulation by academia and industry?

  • almostgotcaught  1 year ago

    > Legion is research (where _future_ products originate)

    my drawings of spaceships are also where future spaceships come from. it's plausible right? therefore my drawings of spaceships are valuable right?

    > Would you care to share the names of some software/hardware engineers worthy of emulation by academia

    sorry that was a mistype - i meant to say no one in the industry cares either. engineers in the industry do understand things because they're working on the things every day.