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Comment by WalterBright

20 days ago

No, the insurance premiums aren't tax deductible.

Line 17, Schedule 1: "Self-employed health insurance deduction"

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040gi#en_US_2024_publink1...

"You may be able to deduct the amount you paid for health insurance (which includes medical, dental, and vision insurance and qualified long-term care insurance) for yourself, your spouse, and your dependents. "

"One of the following statements must be true.

    You were self-employed and had a net profit for the year reported on Schedule C or F.

    You were a partner with net earnings from self-employment.

    You used one of the optional methods to figure your net earnings from self-employment on Schedule SE.

    You received wages in 2024 from an S corporation in which you were a more-than-2% shareholder. Health insurance premiums paid or reimbursed by the S corporation are shown as wages on Form W-2.

  • > "Self-employed"

    I.e. it's deductible for your business.

    My point stands.

    • We had some ambiguity here about what "paying for your own health insurance" actually means, so I am not sure either of our points really stand. Or maybe they both do ...

      On the one hand: health insurance premiums are entirely deductible if you have schedule C income that exceeds their value. This covers more or less all self-employed people, who are the largest group paying for their own insurance.

      On the other hand: health insurance premiums are not deductible if you do not have schedule C income that exceeds their value (and/or are eligible for an employer subsidized insurance policy), which means there is still a sizable and significant group of people paying for their own insurance and not able to deduct it.

      I am sure you know my own preferred answer: convert all health insurance premiums into taxes that fund a single payer system, so that there is no difference between self-employed "self payers" and non-self-employed "self payers".

      Given that we're unlikely to see that before I'm pushing up daisies, I would agree that either any health insurance premium paid by the insured should be tax deductible or none of it should be, to level the playing field. I think I slightly prefer the none solution, but I'm not actively against the all version.

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