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Comment by PaulDavisThe1st

20 days ago

You mean that the fact that this mistruth/lie/distortion is predominantly told by people with a particular view of the world should simply be ignored?

It’s irrelevant to your point, so yes.

You’re either making a statement about conservatives or you’re talking about actual ideas. You can’t have a meaningful conversation about ideas if you’re doing tribalism.

  • and yet the history of ideas is shaped by and often labelled according to "tribalism".

    i am talking about an actual idea. an actual idea that happens to fit much more nicely into one political worldview than another. an idea that is repeated much more often by people who hold that worldview than by people who do not. an idea that is more or less demonstrably false.

    so i am talking about both the (false) idea and the fact the it is an idea that continues to be talked about (despite its falsehood) by a particular group of people. that can be a meaningful conversation even if you don't like it.