Comment by heresie-dabord

Thanks for clarifying. There must be more subtlety in the "end goal" of membership.

> people ultimately need to feel valued by their tribe

To the extent that people want to remain in a group ("tribe"), I agree.

But this holds only when people feel that they gain value from the group (or tribe). For some members, the sense of gain may be conspicuous prestige, but for other members it may be a humble gain or an unnoticed (inconspicuous) gain.

The quieter members (in O.P.'s narcissistic terminology, the "NPCs" in his company) may have insights that completely escape the O.P. and other prestige-seekers.