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Comment by db48x

8 days ago

It’s a pleasant spot. Texas is dry and hot as a rule, but the river walk is a level below the city, right at the water’s edge, with trees providing ample shade for the whole length. If you are visiting San Antonio you will definitely want to eat lunch there so that you can be in the shade during the hottest part of the day.

But is it special enough to make it worth a trip to San Antonio just to see the it? No, probably not. You probably live near a river, and there are probably restaurants with a deck you can sit on while you eat lunch. Go to San Antonio to see the Alamo and remember all who died for your freedom there, then as long as you’re in the area go to the river for a leisurely lunch.

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closewith  8 days ago

> remember all who died for your freedom there

The Mexicans or the Texans?

  • superq  8 days ago

    No Mexicans died for anyone's freedom, including their own or other Mexicans. They were serving under a dictator and didn't have a choice. (And, yes, there were some slaves in Texas, but comparatively few compared to the rest of the South.)

    The small force there knew they would eventually be massacred by the thousands of troops surrounding them. The defenders held them off for 13 days. When they requested parley, Santa Anna signaled no quarter. Legend has it that Davy Crockett was on the roof, fighting to keep the horde from coming up the ladder, but he died with the rest of them.

    Santa Anna ordered the execution of the six surviving prisoners of war. The Alamo defenders fought bravely and died in support of an idea: that men can govern themselves and live in freedom. It would take another 30 years before the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, would sign the Emancipation Proclamation and free the slaves.

    • AlotOfReading  8 days ago

      This is pretty revisionist. Slavery wasn't some ancillary factor that just happened to exist in Texas. It was core to the anglo side of the Texas revolution. The War Party was strongly proslavery and the increasing (Mexican) federal push towards abolition was a key point for them. They especially hated a Mexican predecessor to the Emancipation Proclamation called the Guerrero decree that (attempted to) free most slaves in the northern states. After independence, they wrote slavery into the constitution and some of the first laws passed prohibited slaveowners from freeing slaves without government approval. The events in Texas were just one of half a dozen revolutions opposed to Mexican federal centralization around the same time.

      None of this was politically palatable after the American Civil War and people certainly weren't going to focus on the non-anglo sides of the revolution that weren't so deeply proslavery, so the narrative that's taught in schools was sanitized.

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    • wileydragonfly  7 days ago

      Isn’t it pretty much accepted now that Davy was one of the survivors executed the next morning? I suppose it doesn’t really matter either way, but surprised to see the “died with guns blazing” story still in circulation.

  • SR2Z  8 days ago

    The Texans were fighting for the slaveholding Republic of Texas, the Mexicans for a dictator.

    Probably not your freedom specifically, but the vague concept.

sokoloff  7 days ago

> Texas is dry and hot as a rule

Brownsville and Houston would like a word… (Texas is a huge state and coastal Texas is not dry.)

  • db48x  7 days ago

    Yea, I've lived in Houston so I know all about how hot and humid it is. But the two areas are by no means equal in size: the hot and dry parts of Texas are vast and cover most of the state. There’s lots of variation too. El Paso is far dryer than San Antonio. But if you’re walking around downtown in midday in most parts of Texas the only thought on your mind will be where your next glass of ice water is going to come from.

dylan604  8 days ago

Not a bad comment until BAM! The Alamo is such a lackluster disappointing building. It's tiny. Even if you know it is small, it is still impressive in how small it really is. It is the exact opposite of knowing how big the Grand Canyon is but still being amazed at its size when you visit in person. It's also a total let down in that no bicycles were found there.