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Comment by whycome

7 days ago

Bring back a version of this to help aging seniors deal with increasingly complex interfaces.

Seniors today were professionals using technology 20 years ago.

In many ways interfaces have remained pretty static since then.

The only real innovation was the iPhone, but it’s just a more responsive multi touch palm, to some degree.

We still use windowing computers with mice/trackpad and keyboard, have pocket computers with apps and touch screens, and interface with more less the same browser with URL bar.

We maybe are on cusp of VR and that will be a sea change in interfaces, if it ever comes to pass. And voice commands, but pretty limited function so far

That’s from the 90s to today.

Compare that to 60s to 90s, where you barely had desktop calculators, and used magnetic tape and maybe punch card inputs:

https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1965/

  • >Seniors today were professionals using technology 20 years ago.

    This is correct. Folks, VisiCalc was introduced in 1979, when today's ninety-year-olds were 44. They had not even lived half their current life.

  • > The only real innovation was the iPhone, but it’s just a more responsive multi touch palm, to some degree.

    You can’t just treat this as a throwaway line. Touch interfaces signal a fundamental shift in the way people interact with computers. You just take swipes and gestures for granted. Have you watched a senior try to interact with the modern web? The interface is not only the buttons of the browser, but the page itself. Today we have shifting interfaces that move because of lazy load ads. We have popups that one needs to understand how to close. We have essential functions buried behind an arbitrary “hamburger” menu icon. We have sites that hijack the back button. Sites that deliberately try to deceive. And lots of software (including Microsoft apps) has shifted to a cloud model. This becomes an inextricable aspect of the interface itself. Suddenly, there’s no means to “save” and old “digital paper” model/metaphors have given way to “infinite web page” documents.

    I spend a lot of time with seniors and see firsthand the roadbumps and dead ends they face.

  • That's a weird take, we have enough stories of people growing up with mobile phones having less of a clue about desktop OSes than people aged 30-60. We have other people (seniors now) who never really clicked with computers in the 90s-2010. There are so many groups who would fall into the category of benefitting from this.

I remember when the first iPad came out, and the tech press marveled at how easily seniors could understand it. This no longer applies to modern iOS.

We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode, skeuomorphic design and all. Back when the camera app only had a photo or video switch, a take photo button, and a gallery button.

  • > We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode

    But web developers have done their best to wreck this. Have you ever had to explain GDPR cookie dialogs to elderly parents? I've watched them Google recipes only to blame the chef when the site was broken or unusable, which was more often than not.

    • But that's not due to web developers. They merely execute what some business people ask them to do in order to make people consent to something they don't want to consent to and making them angry about the EU presumably causing this, while it's completely up to the ad industry. They could make it a lot simpler or even reduce their surveillance.

that's an idea - a version of it on social media to remind them to go out and touch grass instead of believing every conspiracy theory.