Comment by JumpCrisscross
6 days ago
> obviously there is a limit
Whether there is or isn’t is irrelevant. The fact that when asked “how much,” the answer seems to have no defined limit is what I’m criticising.
6 days ago
> obviously there is a limit
Whether there is or isn’t is irrelevant. The fact that when asked “how much,” the answer seems to have no defined limit is what I’m criticising.
I’m not the one who quantified things. Graham did. I take it then you agree with me that Graham’s statement was written without merit or justification.
EDIT: Graham wrote, “Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be, but a genuine one.”
He stated a limit on the level of racism. He gave a bound on it. He said it is less that what woke people think it is. CrissCross is being deliberately obtuse. This edit is for people who come across this thread. My comment pointed out that Graham didn’t justify this belief. I don’t know the level of racism and I’m not arrogant enough to try.
> I’m not the one who quantified things. Graham did
He quite literally didn’t. There are almost no numbers in the entire essay. The argument you object to is qualitative.
> take it then you agree with me that Graham’s statement was written without merit or justification
No. The exact limit is both irrelevant and not definable. Your comment demanded a “scale to the problem.”
EDIT: > EDIT: Graham wrote, “Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be, but a genuine one.” He stated a limit on the level of racism. He gave a bound on it. He said it is less that what woke people think it is
One, still not quantitative. Two, nobody is debating whether there is a limit. (I said “there is no limit to racism that has ever been proposed by the far left,” and you said “obviously there is a limit.” These statements can coëxist.)
The question is whether Americans’ subjective sense of our own racism is accurate. And I’m saying that someone who claims there is more racism than the average person thinks and then fails to define it (the burden being on them, after all, for rejecting the status quo), that said person is probably overestimating it. Not necessarily. And there are plenty of activists and academics who are quite precise about defining and measuring racism. But those folks aren’t usually the ones running around online calling others racist.