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Comment by sedatk

6 days ago

That only makes the progressive outlook more remarkable.

Im not sure why you think this is a "progressive" take that's the mainstream view of the center right Christian Democratic party of Germany.

  • Because I’m not making a contemporary comparison but a chronological one. Yes, women and LGBT leaders among fascists can be boringly mainstream today. It wasn’t until recently. That’s a dimension of progress.

    • Oh sorry I might have misinterpreted your previous comment.

      I don't think its totally unknown in the past although I suppose you might say it was often done with implausible deniability. As people pointed out there's a difference between being out and being openly out.

      One funny example was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky (Putin's fascist clown who played the extremist to make Putin seem more reasonable, although it was probably close to his real views). Surprisingly the antisemitic Russian ultra nationalist had a Jewish father(who divorced his mother and moved to Israel when he was an infant) which he used to sort of deny it in a ridiculous manner saying his mother was Russian and his father was a lawyer