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Comment by vasco

5 days ago

> I’m generally left with the impression that there is no way to confront those topics in a way that would satisfy them

Epictetus said, "Don't explain your philosophy, embody it."

People are doing exactly that.

They're welcoming historically marginalized groups into their workplaces, their families, their communities. Every day they treat others with basic respect.

It makes some people so mad that they crawl the internet for examples of these people "going too far". They'll bring up examples from other continents to get that angry fix. They'll misconstrue them in the worst possible light and pass it on telephone style till it's unrecognizable. And if they don't find any they'll make them up. They'll sometimes pretend to be the people they hate and propose stupid things to make themselves angry.

I've seen the latter happen in comments here where one reactionary sarcastically suggests something ridiculous and another one takes it seriously and gets angry at it.

Currently online lesbians are being blamed for forest fires. Which is only a minor update on the classic religious claim of "hurricanes caused by being tolerant of gays".

So I don't think you can escape this just by not being "woke" and "annoying".

  • > They're welcoming historically marginalized groups

    So humans then?

    Because all humans have been marginalized at some point in history. Even the language you're using is an example of the problem, since it insinuates that some groups of people were marginalized and some people were not. If you really wanted to embody the values of compassion and selflessness, it wouldn't be contingent on the physical traits or background of the person in question.