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Comment by jacoblambda

4 days ago

Roundabouts aren't perfect but they greatly reduce the speed of traffic at the crossing point (while increasing the overall throughput of the intersection).

Without looking up statistics (and I'd love to be proven wrong here), I'd be willing to guess that roundabouts may result in some marginal increase in minor accidents but massively reduces fatalities or accidents that leave the pedestrian in the ICU.

Additionally with a roundabout the crossing can be moved a few cars down the street away from the roundabout itself so that cars can have line of sight to safely approach the crossing and pedestrians have time to react to incoming vehicles. On top of that proper placement of crossings allows a normal zebra crossing to be upgraded to a pelican, puffin, or toucan crossing without impeding flow of traffic within the roundabout.

For pedestrians, roundabouts also eliminate left turn lanes, saving ~9' of stroad width to cross and mean only looking one, predictable, direction at a time.

  • At high traffic times, they can make a pedestrian wait longer. Not so fun when it's cold out.

    But otherwise somewhat easier to navigate.

1-lane roundabouts are OK

More than 1-lane and they're a disaster waiting to happen

  • A disaster for cars, at a slower speed and similar direction than the comparable intersection (and no racing to/from from a light psychology).

    So a disaster with significantly better outcomes than a red light runner (with a high speed side swipe or head collision)

  • Nah, 2 lanes are pretty manageable. Even for a pedestrian. You still only have traffic coming from one direction which makes it easy to see when you can cross.

    From a car perspective, it's just a matter of getting in the right lane for the exit you want.

With roundabouts drivers only look to the left and don't come to a complete stop. If you're on foot trying to cross from the other direction good luck.

  • Yep. Hence the appeal of turning the intersection into a roundabout and pulling the stoplights 3-5 cars from the roundabout and only stopping traffic when pedestrians are present (i.e. puffin and pelican crossing style). It gives cars enough time to turn and then halt with a bright red stop light to catch their attention.

    • Roundabout + pedestrian stoplight is probably fine. I don't think I've ever seen one and I live not too far from where the article is written.

      Seems like it's still worse for pedestrians as they have to wait for the beg button.

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I'm not against circles in general, but (along with pedestrians) they aren't exactly bike friendly either.