Comment by llamaimperative
5 days ago
Yeah, it really is obvious. Here's one excellent example: the dominant right wing media apparatus knowingly engaging in a conspiratorial lie that fetched them a $787 million punishment.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-trial-t...
It seems to me there's plenty of conspiratorial thinking on the left. The rhetoric around Project 2025 comes to mind as a recent example. Same with rhetoric around for-profit prisons (e.g., I see lots of people saying our criminal justice system is primarily profit driven).
If I had to guess, I'd say such thinking is more widespread on the right, but I find it very difficult to see these sort of things clearly since I'm generally left-leaning in my politics.
Which rhetoric around Project 2025 specifically? Everything I saw claimed to be in it is actually in it, and Trump’s distance from it was complete bullshit.
I haven’t heard anyone say our justice system is primarily profit-driven, and certainly haven’t heard any notable mainstreamers taking that position. One could argue lefties overplay the significance/effects of commercial incentives, but I also think it’s defensible to say there should be (to the extent possible) no commercial incentives in incarceration whatsoever.
This is from Rep. Jared Huffman:
“Project 2025 is more than an idea, it's a dystopian plot that’s already in motion to dismantle our democratic institutions, abolish checks and balances, chip away at church-state separation, and impose a far-right agenda that infringes on basic liberties and violates public will. This is an unprecedented embrace of extremism, fascism, and religious nationalism, orchestrated by the radical right and its dark money backers. We need a coordinated strategy to save America and stop this coup before it’s too late."
https://huffman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congre...
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Here's one example on prisons from a quick Kagi search:
"Currently, many think that the goals of [American Prison System] APS are to rehabilitate inmates and help them function properly in the real world. However, the APS’s high recidivism rate and methods of revenue creation support the conclusion that increasing the prison population may be the real goal of the APS."
https://news.law.fordham.edu/jcfl/2018/12/09/the-american-pr...
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Here is an excellent example that many people think you're wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_elections
You must've forgotten what the conversation is about. It's about the degree to which each side is wrapped up in an outrage machine.
That would be reflected in the election results, and not in the way you're implying.
when my side wins it's good and true and when the other side wins it's the outrage machine
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