Comment by insane_dreamer
5 days ago
We're talking about ongoing systemic and widespread social issues that are easily manifested through statistical evidence and therefore not dependent on my belief or your belief. I'm old enough to remember the 80s and no, this is not something like the "Satanic panic" and other similar panics. Not even close.
You're sounding like someone in the 60s saying "yeah, equal rights is a problem but not as bad as they say". The majority of white Americans at that time didn't think there was a problem with equal rights. In 1963, 60% of Americans had an unfavorable view of MLK's march on Washington. In 1964 a survey showed that a majority of New Yorkers felt that the "Negro civil rights movement had gone too far". etc. etc.
If you're not aware that there's a problem, __that's__ the problem.
>We're talking about ongoing systemic and widespread social issues that are easily manifested through statistical evidence and therefore not dependent on my belief or your belief.
Correlation != causation. Evidence of inequity is not evidence of inequality.
White and Asian men were systemically discriminated against for college acceptance up until a recent Supreme Court decision. That was an ongoing systemic and widespread social issue that was easily manifested through statistical evidence and therefore not dependent on my belief or your belief.
>I'm old enough to remember the 80s and no, this is not something like the "Satanic panic" and other similar panics. Not even close.
For sure, this time around it's even more detached from reality.
>You're sounding like someone in the 60s saying "yeah, equal rights is a problem but not as bad as they say".
Not at all, they were de jure discriminated against. Laws on the books, they clearly did not have equal rights, unlike now.
>If you're not aware that there's a problem, __that's__ the problem.
You haven't proven there is a problem, or that the problem is systemic, pervasive, or outsized. You believe that is the truth, and like the good Christians during the Satanic panic, you're clutching your pearls at the sight of people who don't believe your religion.
I don't have to prove anything to you, and it's clear that it wouldn't matter if I did, so no point in wasting time. One day you might want to try opening your eyes.
>I don't have to prove anything to you, and it's clear that it wouldn't matter if I did
Of course you don't, you have faith.
>One day you might want to try opening your eyes.
They're wide open, and I can clearly see you're not touching enough grass.