This is about the dumbest thing you can do. TikTok at least maintains a facade of neutrality.
小红书 does not differentiate between the Chinese and western versions, meaning you're under the same rules as in China. Any comments against the CCP will get deleted, including jokes. It's not a "free speech" platform.
It's also just funny seeing people use this outside China.
The TikTok ban should be a good opportunity for people to quit their social media addiction.
exactly. this whole RedNote development frames the problem of United States social media data harvesting and surveillance. We've been institutionalized to believe that the Chinese are the most propagandized and censored people on the planet, meanwhile American "free speech" social media platforms regularly de-platform and de-monetized accounts regularly.
It’s clear that those who imposed the ban didn’t think of the consequences. What did they think was going to happen when users could no longer access TikTok? They’d stay home and study? They’d use their free time for sports? They’d join Facebook? Obviously, none of the above.
What’s dumb is to pass legislation without anticipating how people will react to the new rule.
Possibly. Though I think relying on any China based services is a poor choice, since the US government will be just as likely to try and block/restrict them for similar reasons to TikTok.
Honestly surprised we haven't seen any European, South American, African, etc developed social apps take off given the privacy and moderation concerns. Or apps based in Asian countries other than China.
We need a neutral social media society that plays fair. Maybe a company HQed in Switzerland or something offering full privacy and full ad protection seems to be an opportunity.
This is about the dumbest thing you can do. TikTok at least maintains a facade of neutrality.
小红书 does not differentiate between the Chinese and western versions, meaning you're under the same rules as in China. Any comments against the CCP will get deleted, including jokes. It's not a "free speech" platform.
It's also just funny seeing people use this outside China.
The TikTok ban should be a good opportunity for people to quit their social media addiction.
>Any comments against the CCP will get deleted, including jokes. It's not a "free speech" platform.
I have bad news for you about "free speech" on any social media platform in the Western hemisphere...
exactly. this whole RedNote development frames the problem of United States social media data harvesting and surveillance. We've been institutionalized to believe that the Chinese are the most propagandized and censored people on the planet, meanwhile American "free speech" social media platforms regularly de-platform and de-monetized accounts regularly.
Comments critical of the US government do not typically get deleted from social media platforms based out of the US.
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It’s clear that those who imposed the ban didn’t think of the consequences. What did they think was going to happen when users could no longer access TikTok? They’d stay home and study? They’d use their free time for sports? They’d join Facebook? Obviously, none of the above.
What’s dumb is to pass legislation without anticipating how people will react to the new rule.
TikTok wasn't free speech either, it was just different speech. I never cared about it until they tried to ban it.
Possibly. Though I think relying on any China based services is a poor choice, since the US government will be just as likely to try and block/restrict them for similar reasons to TikTok.
Honestly surprised we haven't seen any European, South American, African, etc developed social apps take off given the privacy and moderation concerns. Or apps based in Asian countries other than China.
US alternatives don't feel too good either.
We need a neutral social media society that plays fair. Maybe a company HQed in Switzerland or something offering full privacy and full ad protection seems to be an opportunity.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/14/contesting-popularity/#ev...
https://freeourfeeds.com/
https://techcrunch.com/podcast/social-media-should-be-built-...
"Social media should be built on protocols, not platforms."
Or use decentralized ones like Bluesky
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It is because China has 1.4 billion people that can't be dominated by Silicon Valley.
I am sure there are all kinds of social media apps in those other countries no one uses.
I also assume this story has little to do with reality and it is just a nice headline that will get clicks.
It is because China has 1.4 billion people that can't be dominated by Silicon Valley.
I am sure there are all kinds of social media apps in those other countries that no one uses.
Perhaps the kids will purposely prefer Chinese apps and sources as an act of rebellion.
That's... exactly what's happening though?
Related ongoing thread:
TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42710339 - Jan 2025 (807 comments)
The heat will gradually fade away, because without real-name authentication, nothing can be done.
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