Comment by paradox242
3 days ago
The credibility of the food industry is so low that I think people would support bans on most additives on general principle. We look back at things like putting lead and radium in paint or using asbestos in insulation and say "they should have known better, how could they be so stupid". Well, good additives have a lengthy history of containing harmful additives and I think future generations will say the same about many of these currently in use. What's interesting is that from our current time we can see just how easily it happens, even with the amount of information available to average person.
I realized a long time ago that lack of information isn’t the problem. We’re basically living in a Brave New World now; most people are too distracted to realize they’re being poisoned and would only accept it if the very institutions doing it told them they were doing it. But IMO it’s more of an emotional thing - once you realize it it’s hard to go back to the comfy world of “actually the bureaucrats and shareholders are looking out for my well-being”.
Sometimes they just don't need to lie to us or hide some info, when it was proven and made public that cured meats cause different cancers nobody batted an eye.
> We look back at things like putting lead and radium in paint or using asbestos in insulation and say "they should have known better, how could they be so stupid"
The main thing is: they did know better. They lied to us. They spent a lot of time, money, and effort to lie to us.
And this has happened time and time again in many different industries. Just the other day there was a story on the HN front-page about the PFAS industry has been copying the tobacco playbook for in disinformation campaign.
Also on other topics. For example canned tuna with "Dolphin friendly" logos. Looks good, right? And then people look into it to see what it means, and turns out it has no value, is something the company simply invented themselves, and has done zero-effort to make anything more "dolphin friendly". The entire thing is a basically just a lie.
Many additives are probably entirely safe. Things like vitamin C and caramel are "an E number", and those are fine. But I sure don't trust things, and I don't have the resources to see what is and isn't safe myself, so best to just avoid most of it.
Labeling is the big one imo.
What gets tracked gets improved. I think we need to update the ingredient requirements for food (wtf is seasoning) but also update the fields on Nutritional Facts.
Having a drink like Oreo Coca-Cola read 0’s down the board is illustrative of my point. There’s lots of crap in our food but it’s been selected specifically for its ability to not be captured in the dozen or so categories deemed important back when legislation passed on food transparency.