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Comment by throwaway7783

4 days ago

From the same article

> Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such,” as noted in the December 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

So can we also say Hamas is genocidal? Because complete success is not necessary, intent matters and magnitudes don't matter. Right? My disagreement is just that - We cannot just accuse one side in this unfortunate event.

> So can we also say Hamas is genocidal?

No, because intent matters, and Hamas do not have genocidal intent - all they want is freedom from Israeli occupation and dehumanisation, and their stolen land back.

  • There's an argument to be made that they do have intent, but it hasnt been acted upon.

    The killing of 800 civilians and ~400 soldiers in a single military attack isnt a genocide it's at worst a terrorist attack.

    If they committed that kind of atrocity once every 3-4 days for over a year - as Israel did to them in retaliation for that attack then yeah, genocide.

    Realistically some of the Jews in Polish ghettoes probably had genoidal intent against the Germans too. Doesnt matter.

What about something else? What are we to say about it? Why are you asking me. Say what you need to say about it.

I'm not the genocide decider, I have no particular reason or expertise from which to judge whether any other specific conflict is a genocide.

The person I was responding to was quibbling about the use of this word, and I'm pointing to a subject expert's opinion that the use is correct.