Comment by matwood

> I was just thinking about how for the people requesting all of these meetings, the meetings are the work.

This is a huge problem in all orgs of any size and one I battle with - misaligned incentives.

> For engineers, meetings are the non-productive part and are not counted anywhere.

Part of addressing the issue is to not be binary in your thinking. You'll lose the people you need to persuade. Some meetings are very productive and necessary for engineers. The goal isn't to get rid of all meetings as much as it's to only have productive meetings. When forced to only have productive meetings, fewer meetings naturally result.