Comment by colordrops
3 days ago
Do you also abide by the ICC's finding that there is a case for Israel committing genocide and the arrest warrant for Netanyahu? Or do you pick and choose?
3 days ago
Do you also abide by the ICC's finding that there is a case for Israel committing genocide and the arrest warrant for Netanyahu? Or do you pick and choose?
> Do you also abide by the ICC's finding that there is a case for Israel committing genocide
That's a false statement. ICC has found no such thing.
Aditionally ICC is a criminal court and only prosecuted individuals not states. It would not be in their power to make such a finding against the state of Israel. They lack juridsiction for that. They can prosecute individual leaders, they can't prosecute the country itself.
> the arrest warrant for Netanyahu?
In my ideal world, Gallant and Netanyahu would self-surrender and argue their case in court. (Unfortunately i don't hold much hope for that actually happening). I support the ICC and there is some serious allegations of misconduct against them. However to be clear, criminal genocide is not one of them.
I do think there is a bit more room to argue in the case against the israeli officials. "Rape" has a pretty solid definition, but the war crime of starvation has essentially no case law, so there are a lot more ambiguities for a good lawyer to sink their teeth into.
Here’s an ICC document explaining exactly what the Netanyahu arrest warrant alleges:
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-p...
They don’t use the work “genocide”. Instead they spend pages enumerating and precisely defining acts of genocide.
The ICC has juridsiction over genocide. If they wanted to charge someone with that, presumably they would have done that instead of charging them with lesser crimes.
Yes, many crimes overlap somewhat, the definitions of genocide (i use plural since there are 5 types of genocide at the ICC) generally involve something that is already a different crime plus additional things to make it more serious. Sort of like how in domestic law manslaughter and first degree murder are different crimes but the physical act involved is very similar.
In any case the fact remains that the ICC prosecuter has not sought a warrant for genocide against any Israeli national.
Given that the pre-trial chamber rejected the extermination charge, it seems unlikely they would approve a genocide charge.
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