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Comment by tsimionescu

3 days ago

> nor the Jews in Israel either, they have by and large not committed to a terrorism campaign like Hamas has

Israelis have killed at least an order of magnitude more Palestinian civilians than Palestinians ever killed Israelis, even before the 7th October war, even counting the 7th October war crimes by Hamas.

The fact that Palestinians do this with bomb cars while the Israelis do it in uniform and with sniper rifles or planes doesn't change anything about who the real threat to whose security is.

Winning a war is not terrorism. Israel would not be in Gaza at all if oct 7 hasn’t happened.

  • Israel has been in Gaza ever since the 1950s or so. They only stopped directly occupying Gaza about 18 years ago. They have since enforced a complete blockade of Gaza, and have shot and killed or bombed thousands of Palestinians, before October 7th.

    • Winning a war isn’t terrorism. The Palestinians and their Arab allies started every war except the original one and even that is arguable. Losing has consequences. The Palestinians can now choose to settle for what little Israel will give them or they can continue starting wars/engaging in terrorism which will lead to them never having any level of sovereignty.

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