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Comment by zonkerdonker

2 days ago

Echoing all the comments here calling this bill absolutely ludicrous. If you're determined to make a gun, and determined to 3d print it, then making a diy machine is as easy as ordering a few stepper motors, some linear extrusion and a motor control board. Are they gonna background check before you buy those too? What about a lathe? Or any steel tube? Or a hacksaw FFS. Unabomber made his pistol from broken car parts and a goddamn hand drill:

" [A] few days ago I finished making a twenty two caliber pistol. This took me a long time, for a year and a half, thereby preventing me from working on some other projects I would have liked to carry out. Gun works well and I get as much accuracy out of it as I'd expect for an inexperienced pistol shot like me. It is equipped with improvised silencer which does not work as well as I hoped. At a guess it cuts noise down to maybe one third. It is said that it is easy for machinist to make a gun, but of course I did not have machine tools, but only a few files, hacksaw blades, small vice, a rickety hand drill, etc. I took the barrel from an old pneumatic pistol. I made the other parts out of several metal pieces. Most of them come from the old abandoned cars near here. I needed to make the parts with enough precision but I made them well and I'm very satisfied. I want to use the gun as a homicide weapon"

You know what you can't easily manufacture at home? Bullets.

Draw your own conclusions on why that isn't up for regulation here

> You know what you can't easily manufacture at home? Bullets.

Draw your own conclusions on why that isn't up for regulation here

New York already requires background checks for ammunition purchases.

  • It is super easy to make bullets at home. I started making my own when I lived in San Francisco where a) there are no gun shops b) ammo sales require a background check so I had to drive an hour c) the rounds I was shooting were $2 ea.

    None of the components are controlled. The setup cost can be as low as $700 and you can make a bullet in about 45 seconds.

  • Sure, so then if background checks worked...then problem would already be solved.

    And if background checks are not useful for keeping weapons/ammo out of the hands of criminals, then what purpose does this bill serve?

    Conservatives will view it as more overreach by the nanny state, and progressives with any critical thinking skills will see it for what it is, useless.

    • > Sure, so then if background checks worked...then problem would already be solved.

      If guns were eliminated, or everybody suddenly started loving everybody else, the problem would be solved. I'd be happy with either.

      Nonetheless, New York already requires background checks for ammo purposes.

  • They also have a bullshit "must have a pistol permit for handgun ammo" rule on the books, except there's no such thing as a "handgun" bullet. Many rifles can shoot common "handgun" sizes, like 9mm, and as soon as you tell the gentleman at the gun store you're buying it for your converted AR, they ask you cheerfully how many boxes you'd like.