Comment by hnpolicestate
1 day ago
Sometimes I feel bad for repeating myself but relevant threads keep appearing.
Mazda won't permit me to use remote start because I refused to install their app and enable connected services. The man I worked with on the lease was extraordinarily aggressive with me. Almost demanding I install and register this app to complete lease agreement.
So now I don't have remote start and every time I turn the car on I have to select cancel on an infotainment prompt asking me to enable connected services.
The TOS specifically says driving data will be sold to 3rd parties including law enforcement and insurance companies.
I had a similar experience with a Mazda lease
I never installed the app and I was asked to by the leasing guy though he wasn't pushy about it - for whatever reason, the lease/sales guys are incented to have it installed though, allegedly, mazda corporate says they don't incent them - I don't trust it
also, allegedly, since I didn't install it, mazda says my TPU is disabled which is fine by me - remote start is less important than saying many thousands of dollars on bogus insurance hikes
> The TOS specifically says driving data will be sold to 3rd parties including law enforcement and insurance companies.
That's awful, but at least it was written down, I guess.
That'd be a hard "No" for me. Or at least I'd ask for a big chunk of that revenue in exchange for MY data.
> Almost demanding I install and register this app to complete lease agreement.
I wonder how he would react if you were to tell him that you don't own or use a cellular phone.
Doesn't that kind of make sense when leasing though, you're essentially doing "long renting" and you don't actually own the car?
I find it amusing that you think privacy rights should only be for buyers and not renters.
Renters of what? Items people can just take and leave with, yeah I think it's OK they keep track of the thing while I'm renting it.
A home though? I guess it makes sense that they can sometimes inspect it, but I expect privacy in my own home even if I'm renting.
So yeah, depends. Is there some fallacy in my views or something I'm missing?
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