Comment by benreesman

I’m not sure anyone is disputing that, certainly I’m not.

There is an adjacent point that many of us feel is just as important, which is that there is evidence in the public record (see Snowden disclosures among others) that there is lawbreaking or at least abuse of clearly stated constitutional liberties taking place domestically in the consumer internet space and has been for a long time.

Both things can be true, and both are squarely on topic for this debate whether on HN or in the Senate Chambers.