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Comment by shortrounddev2

1 day ago

As their first language, perhaps

There are only about 400 million native English speakers. You can't just add up the population of English speaking countries, because that excludes immigrants living in these countries, and people born there who did not learn English as their first language.

As for people who learned it later, even in Europe, only about 40% self-identify as being able to speak English. If you visit places like China or Indonesia, you'll soon notice that very few people know more than a few basic words in English once you leave the tourist areas.

  • IMO first-or-not is moot. It’s estimated that around one billion people speak English to a reasonably fluent level. Included in that is many of the commonwealth countries in which English often holds second spot as a lingua franca (eg. India). It’s an incredibly global language.

  • this is horseshit. Canada, the US and the UK alone have - minimum - 400 million. Australia has 25 million, Ireland 5, New Zealand 5, then there's the Anglophone African nations, plus a lot of the Carribbean. Nigeria on its own likely has 100 million native speakers of English

    • As I've said, you can't just sum up populations. About 20% of the US population are immigrants. A lot of them won't speak English as their native language.

      Only about 60 million Nigerians speak English. Hausa is the most commonly spoken native language. Just because English is the official language doesn't mean that it's people's native language.

      I'm not just making stuff up. The 400 million number is from The Ethnologue, a source which linguists generally consider as reliable.

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    • Have you been to Nigeria?

      Not all Nigerians can speak English. But there are a lot who can. It honestly felt about 50/50 to me. And I see some other commenters saying that 60 million Nigerians have some ability to speak it. (But you need to think of that like if I was to say 60 million Americans have some ability to speak Spanish.)

      However, even for those with some facility with English,I don't know that I'd classify it as their native language.

That’s at all, there are only ~380 million native English speakers.

Of that 1/3 (of the global population) a significant percentage have extremely limited skills, though the threshold is above knowing a few random words.

  • > Including people who speak English as a second language, estimates of the total number of Anglophones vary from 1.5 billion to 2 billion

    wikipedia. You are a bit off...

    As for native you have US+UK+Canada+Australia+NZ+Ireland. So more then your 380M.