Comment by dakom

> That's not me sanctioning the Nahal Haredi citing activity akin to torturing civilians

What are you talking about? Read the article you linked to. A single detainee had a heart attack and the accusation is about using zip ties and a gag. Zip ties are absolutely normal. A gag is a bit much but there are situations in the field where it's reasonable. On top of that there were internal investigations done by the IDF because no unit is above the law or policy of the army which is absolutely NOT about genocide or anything near it. It is shameful that you try and cite this as though it were something more damning than it is.

> You should know that "direct orders" are rarely given

I am telling you what my direct orders were throughout training and in the field. I had very clear instructions of protocol about minimizing violence, frankly at the risk of our own lives even under threat from an armed enemy.

> Btw, the leader of the Third Reich started with the intention to ethnically cleanse...

What a ridiculous jump! Rabbi Kahane had a legitimate point about the incompatibility of Western democracy and a thoroughly Jewish state of Israel. He advocated for peaceful resettlement and very much wanted good relationships between a Jewish State of Israel and the neighboring Arab/Muslim countries. Again, I am not saying I agree with his solutions, but objectively he was pointing out a logical dilemma that can't be solved by wishful thinking.

Likening him to a Nazi is horribly off and a terrible insult to a man who lost family members to the holocaust (one of his family, Alice iirc, is a well known artist who I once saw speak at Yad Vashem, as it happens).

> Just another antisemite...

>> ?

It's pretty clear to me when you misquote and twist all kinds of sources to suit false narratives. That takes a certain level of commitment.

But lets keep it simple

I have two questions:

1) How would you propose to maintain a Jewish State of Israel in light of a growing Arab/Muslim population in her borders?

2) Is there any legitimacy at all to the borders outlined in the Torah (i.e. are Jews allowed to practice their religion, which dictates hundreds of laws specific to the land of Israel)?