Comment by tuna74
3 months ago
"To be blunt, I was using Fedora when systemd was coming out, I know how it works intimately because it was constantly broken. Part of what gives me pause is that I know how utterly undebugabble it is when it fails: it just hits those causes less frequently as the world is forced into using it. It becomes battle hardened."
One of the foundations of Fedora is to be "first" and to integrate big changes like systemd before other distros. Things will break if you do that.
The point is that I have experienced how it fails when it does, not that it fails.
All software fails, which is why it’s important that I can debug/fix it when it fails.
That’s my point, I could fix what came before.
Yeah, it is harder to fix completely new unknown stuff. Big surprise!
No, the issue is not that its new; it was that it was binary and outputs very little.
Similarly on Windows, the trouble is never that windows is a new system, it’s that windows by default does not log when issues occur except in special cases, that everything is compiled and inscrutable.
Without pdbs (or equivalent) you literally could not debug issues, which was not the case with comparable inits (SMF) or what came before (bash scripts with various execution styles).
This is not the gotcha you seem to think, and I’m drunk at the moment and typing on a phone- so all I have to say is get over yourself and engage properly with what I’m saying instead of being defensive and flippant.