Comment by dijit

No, the issue is not that its new; it was that it was binary and outputs very little.

Similarly on Windows, the trouble is never that windows is a new system, it’s that windows by default does not log when issues occur except in special cases, that everything is compiled and inscrutable.

Without pdbs (or equivalent) you literally could not debug issues, which was not the case with comparable inits (SMF) or what came before (bash scripts with various execution styles).

This is not the gotcha you seem to think, and I’m drunk at the moment and typing on a phone- so all I have to say is get over yourself and engage properly with what I’m saying instead of being defensive and flippant.