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Comment by f-trycua

3 months ago

Yes, lume relies on Apple's Virtualization framework and can run BSD on a Mac with Apple silicon: https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon

I'll definitely document the option in the README, thanks!

On Lima:

- Lima focuses on Linux VMs and doesn't support managing macOS VMs.

- It is more of a container-oriented way of spinning up Linux VMs. We're still debating whether to go in that direction with lume, but the good news is that it would mostly require tweaking the hooks to expose lume’s core to adopt the containerd standard. I’d love to hear your thoughts - would you find it useful to have a Docker-like interface for starting macOS workloads? Similarly to: https://github.com/qemus/qemu-docker

- Still many dependencies on QEMU, which doesn't play well with Apple silicon - while we opted to support only M chips (80-90% of the market cap today) by relying on the latest Apple Virtualization.Framework bits.

On Tart:

- We share some similarities when it comes to tart's command-line interface. We extend it and make it more accessible to different frameworks and languages with our local server option (lume serve). We have also an interface for python today: https://github.com/trycua/pylume

- Going forward, we'd like to focus more on creating tools around developers, creating tools for automation and extending the available images in our ghcr registry. Stay tuned for more updates next week!

- Lastly, lume is licensed under MIT, so you’re free to use it for commercial purposes. Tart, on the other hand, currently uses a Fair Source license.

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Khaine  3 months ago

Hey, thanks for responding.

I think it is great to have more options in this space, as all of these options are still quite immature. In terms of approaches to take, I find one of the challenges in using lima is that, they way lima works makes the VM different enough from production that I can't be confident testing covers everything.

In terms of feature set, I think some of these have been mentioned below, but these would be great: - network bridging - snapshotting - usb / bluetooth passthrough (this is probably dependent on Apple's framework)