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Comment by wg0

19 days ago

United we stand, divided we fall.

More than LLMs, Europe needs chip autonomy. ASAP.

Own fabs, own IP.

We dont need "total autonomy" when we have friends that already produce chips, for example.

Rather, invest in defense and protect trade with Taiwan.

We can do what we are best at and produce lithography equipment at ASML and the Taiwanese at TSMC produce the chips with it and send them back to us.

Europe as a project is over, it's all downhill from here. You can't regulate yourself into economic growth, and there is nothing else the Eurocrats care to do. There is still lots of fat in the land that they can leech off before Europe kicks the bucket.

  • If I got an Euro for every time someone has expressed this opinion, I'd be a rich man. Save it until the EU really doesn't exist.

  • I mean, people have been saying this about the EU and its predecessor organisations since about 1950. If you believe the right-wing media, the EU should collapse a few times a year from various causes; it's as bad as the Roman Empire!

There are companies like infineon and elmos in germany (and i think a handful more). So it is happening, just not (yet) with consumer products

Europe has ARM, AMD and ASML, but everything is produced elsewhere. Time to build giant automated chip fabs.

  • "automated" is the issue when producing chips. You can automate some to a certain level of nm. Have you seen the labor needed for maintaing a single modern ASML machine? Also we got a lot, but Japan has the tools to verify results.