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Comment by shwouchk

1 year ago

So you too, are saying “its possible” as proof of your argument.

Which itself shifted from complaining that you aren’t warned that coffee is hot, to - after implicitly agreeing that it should be obvious it’s hot - complaining that it they didn’t have to make it as hot.

Great! Offer an alternative! Everyone would be more than happy.

Not that it's "possible", that it requires them to add nothing new.

That is a much much easier to reach bar.

It's like if a restaurant sells cheeseburgers, and I want a hamburger. "How do they figure out ~~what~to~cache~~ the cheese to ketchup ratio without adding cheese?" They can just skip that part. I'm not asking for sushi and supporting that by saying "sushi is possible".

  • So you agree that your argument has shifted from complaining about inadequate disclosure that coffee contains caffeine, to complaints about lack of decaf offerings.

    It would also be trivial for google and facebook to turn off all ads and logging of your activity. They would need to do strictly less than they do now. It would benefit all users too!

    In CF case they would have to build a completely different infrastructure to detect bots using different technology to what they have now, including different ways around false positives for legitimate users. While perhaps nothing new in the sense that you claim “this is possible”, i see no one else offering this mythical “possible” product.

    I would be the first in line to your offering of free cheeseless hamburgers. Where do i sign up?

    • > So you agree that your argument has shifted from complaining about inadequate disclosure that coffee contains caffeine, to complaints about lack of decaf offerings.

      My argument has never shifted.

      But the reason the argument shifted was because someone specifically asked about how you'd do DDoS protection without those downsides.

      And you continued asking how it could be done.

      > It would also be trivial for google and facebook to turn off all ads and logging of your activity. They would need to do strictly less than they do now. It would benefit all users too!

      Isn't cloudflare supposedly not tracking private information in the websites they proxy...? If you think they make money off it, that's pretty bad...

      > In CF case they would have to build a completely different infrastructure to detect bots using different technology to what they have now, including different ways around false positives for legitimate users.

      I disagree.

      > I would be the first in line to your offering of free cheeseless hamburgers. Where do i sign up?

      First you need to put me into a situation where my business can compete with cloudflare while doing exactly the same things they do. Then I will be happy to comply with that request.

      The hard part of this situation is not the effect of that tiny change on profitability, it's getting into a position where I can make that change.

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