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Comment by Spivak

16 days ago

We literally tried to do this with TikTok. We can't exactly stand on a high-horse when the highest level of government in the US was totally fine with it.

Our noble "we can't have American data in the hands of our enemies," their savage "forcing American companies to turn over user data."

I disagree. Apple is a hardware company but TT is a shithole social media

in other words, you store much more data on a phone versus a doomscrolling app[*]

*: unless you make videos and publish PII in them :)

Edit: I misread the comment tree, I thought this comment was equating the TikTok situation to the UK's request.

I agree that the TikTok demands are pretty similar, though I might quibble over whether they're literally the same, since arrangements like that are the status quo in China but not in the US

Original comment below:

How is "remove foreign control of data on our nation's users" remotely the same as "give us access to foreign users' data"?

They're not even figuratively the same, despite you literally misusing that word

  • It's not clear which scenario you are referring to.

    If by "give us access to foreign users' data", you mean TikTok, then ByteDance is only required to sell the US portion of TikTok to American buyers. If you mean iCloud, then Apple is only required to keep Chinese users' data on local servers.

    • Oh my bad, I misread the comment tree and thought this comment was a response to the grandparent.

      "give us access to foreign users' data" referred to what the UK is asking for, I thought the post i was replying to was equating the UK's request to the US'