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Comment by jmull

15 days ago

> and because the constitution hasn’t prevented state censorship in the US[2-4]

That the constitution hasn't been upheld to a perfect standard all the time doesn't mean it doesn't codify freedoms. Also, precisely what the standard is isn't universally agreed upon and changes over time.

GP tried to argue that, by virtue of the First Amendment & co, US citizens are more protected against right violations than any other country, including those that merely “give” the rights to their citizens.

Freedom being “codified” doesn’t mean much when it’s trivial to violate it both directly and indirectly.

> What the standard is isn’t universally agreed upon.

The First Amendment is very explicit about what the standard is: “[…] or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

The government has many tools to violate precisely those rights, and both sides of the political spectrum have exercised them.

The society and political environment that created the Constitution are far in the past, and we should stop pretending that modern US shares its spirit. Instead, we should look around to learn from the success of other countries.