Comment by sevg
10 months ago
You seem to be implying that he had nothing to apologise for, and that abusive behavior is an acceptable part of strong leadership.
It’s sad that this even needs to be called out.
10 months ago
You seem to be implying that he had nothing to apologise for, and that abusive behavior is an acceptable part of strong leadership.
It’s sad that this even needs to be called out.
Except you have no authority to call that out, and we're not forced by law to agree with you.
In my opinion Linus was never abusive or disrespectful - just blunt and direct.
Unfortunately, there seems to exist people (like me) that would prefer such individuals instead of nice empty words just in case someone gets offended.
Are you serious? Linus has a long history of being abusive, it is no secret. He has gotten better for sure in recent years, but especially in the earlier days he would fairly regularly insult people, tell them to kill themselves because it would make the world a better place, and more.
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> In my opinion Linus was never abusive or disrespectful - just blunt and direct.
The way he spoke with Alan Cox was "not apropiate".
Not appropriate for what exactly?
could you give some examples of "nice empty words"?
Seriously? I’m a huge fan of Linus, but you have to be delusional to not find his rants abusive or disrespectful.
Seriously. And I say this because apparently every comment on this thread has to be on either side, with no actions being considered counterbalance whatsoever. So given that I have to pick a side, yep, seriously.
Not as disrespectful as calling those who don't agree with you "delusional".
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I agree, engaging in further conversation would be futile.
Can you explain in simple terms why a person cannot reply abusively (whatever that means) if he so desires? You're not obliged to interact with him, it's a free choice to join or to quit the lkml.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/30/hard_to_find_linux_ma...
One of the main issues Torvalds says the kernel has is not being able to find maintainers. People don’t want to be abused while volunteering could be part of that.
Another possibility is that he gets paid over a million dollars a year by an employer, who will have some concerns over legal risks, reputation, etc.
Perhaps, but if Linus would rather see the mainline kernel development dwindle than compromise his way of managing people and code, he's still well within his rights.
As for his relationship with his employer — they both have the freedom to terminate it when their interests do not align anymore.
I genuinely struggle to understand where all the high expectations come from. Somehow people think that an open source project leader is obliged to be kind and polite and humble and understanding. None of these obligations exist as far as I can tell.
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