Comment by steveklabnik
10 months ago
He does not need to consider those ramifications because it is up to the rust for Linux people to fix the issues. He does not need to care about them at all.
They reiterated that in the thread too.
10 months ago
He does not need to consider those ramifications because it is up to the rust for Linux people to fix the issues. He does not need to care about them at all.
They reiterated that in the thread too.
This works only if you trust the Rust people to do their job.
Obviously the maintainer does not trust the Rust people, but they also did nothing to gain his trust, but the opposite.
Just saying "Trust me, or else I will shame you" is not a viable strategy.
The default position of any code maintainer who sees some people coming and saying that they would maintain from now on some parts of the code and that there should be no worries about that, is to not trust them immediately, but only after enough time passes during which they demonstrate that they are really competent and not just claiming to be so.
Saying "I do not trust you, so I'm going to stonewall your entire work with which you could have built that trust" is not viable either.
Besides, none of this was said. Hellwig did not say "I do not trust you enough". He said "you are cancer, go away". First is harsh, but at least somewhat reasonable (in the sense that it _can be reasoned with_); second is not reasonable at all. Your interpretation is excessively charitable to an obvious bad-faith actor.
Why do you guys keep saying he said this?? He did not say that, and you (and everybody else) can see it for yourselves:
> If you want to make Linux impossible to maintain due to a cross-language codebase do that in your driver so that you have to do it instead of spreading this cancer to core subsystems. (where this cancer explicitly is a cross-language codebase and not rust itself, just to escape the flameware brigade).
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250128092334.GA2854...
That's totally, utterly different than your characterization of it.
(So many other people were also falsely claiming that he said it like that, I initially assumed it was true, so I'm a little irritated.)
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> Your interpretation is excessively charitable to an obvious bad-faith actor.
And yet you keep defending Hector.
No it does not require trust. If the RfL people don't do their job, well then Linux releases with the Rust parts marked broken and that's that.